Bare with me because I am only about a third of the way into Dark Imperium so its entirely possible some of these issues will be addressed as the story progresses, but Guilliman appears to be doing the same stupid crap the Emperor did and the Guilliman himself did before he got put in stasis. Basically if Guilliman had the time he would and could make the Imperium into a bigger Ultramar. In the wiki, this is described quite briefly: Guilliman was left standing alone before the ornate doorway, dwarfed by its immensity. In Unremembered Empire, Guilliman is the lone Primarch in charge of Ultramar, blocked from Terra by the Ruinstorm. Apart from Faffnr, none of the Wolves had risen or shown any deference. Remember that Guilliman was revived on Macragge, far from Terra, and it was on Macragge that he learned about the past ten thousand years. He heard all these at once. Guilliman has the Emperor's Sword, Johnson has the Emperor's shield; I don't think the symbolism could be less obvious. Suffice to say, yes Guilliman hasn't "rescued" the imperium as a whole, shit is still fucked in the 41st millennium, however if he hadn't of returned, it is likely the forces of chaos would be likely to have overwhelmed the imperium by now, Roboutes efforts and the primaris reinforcements have simply balanced the scales. ’ ‘Failure. Guilliman has tried for over a decade to convince the Imperium and its leaders that the Emperor is not a god, with no success. The Emperor's light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally - finally - Guilliman had seen it as a whole. Agronomy would probably still be really pissed at the emperor and by extension the imperium for letting all his fellow gladiators die on Nuceria. ’ Mathieu took a step backwards. Leman Rus stands there, covered in blood, swaying drunkenly. Guilliman stopped his walking and looked down at the woman. The Eldar, back before the Fall, were slavers. In the wiki, this is described quite briefly: Guilliman was left standing alone before the ornate doorway, dwarfed by its immensity. The whole practical/theoretical thing isn't what normal people do, because normal people have feelings making up the difference. First, when Guilliman was wounded by Fulgrim, Emperor literally pulls Guilliman out of the Warp, keeping him alive long enough to be put into stasis. However, I don’t think that’s going to be the case, because the Lion and Guilliman are not going to be on the same page. There's a reason that famous painting of the Emperor confronting Horus on the Vengeful Spirit has three central figures, and the body of Sanguinius is one of them. It's to show us how far Abby's come and that he's a real threat. ‘My father is no god. Guilliman figures out why the Emperor kept Chaos a secret from everybody. Saying the exact same thing in 40k is heresy of the highest order because in 40k the Emperor is a god and is intrinsic to the Imperium he rules. He also knows that pushing too hard will lead to civil war. He wants to reunite humanity again and destroy the old doctrine of idolatry towards the emperor in order to lead humanity to the right path. He had hoped for better from the Primarch. You could argue that Guilliman, Lion and Russ could distract Horus enough for the emperor to make a deadly blow. At these rumoured stats, he'll be using the sword against most targets since he'll have 14 attacks and wound T4 on a 2 plus at D2. Guilliman picks it up, stabs the big E. Out of all the Primarchs, the Emperor directly intervened to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor, this is said to be the only moment in which the Emperor directly interevne to make sure that Guilliman is found by Konor and not the Illyrian tribes. By helping Angron, Guilliman would avoid breeding the same kind of animosity that the Emperor did. Bare with me because I am only about a third of the way into Dark Imperium so its entirely possible some of these issues will be addressed as the story progresses, but Guilliman appears to be doing the same stupid crap the Emperor did and the Guilliman himself did before he got put in stasis. That is not to say that the Emperor wasn't always strong. The Emperor had access to. the most normal and pragmatic of the loyalists, next to Roboute, and would probably be the quickest to understand what Guilliman did. Even Horus laments how he has the lunatics and dregs of the primarchs on his side. Option 1: The Emperor told Guilliman what he needed to hear to steel himself for the grim, dark future of the 42nd Millenium - there's no place for softness. ago. The prior Ecclesiarch tried to lead a coup against him. Dan Abnett put in some excellent irony and foreshadowing in Guilliman's musing in the Unremembered Empire. Guilliman had it easy compared to Angron, but Angron never tried to push past his circumstances and essentially just gave up once the Emperor gave him the War Hounds. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. 0 like Horus. The former worlds of the Realm of Ultramar didn't want to have to give up their independence to Guilliman after 10,000 years of not having him. ‘Yes,’ Mathieu smiled serenely. Inevitable and actually really solid for Guilliman as a mechanic. Didnt Guilliman say something along the lines of that the Emperors humanity is gone? And now hes just simply cold logical and uncaring. Now there is only Guilliman left, the only demi god that the emperor decided to rez (whether or not it was Guilliman who originally planned it, or Cawl, or Yvraigne, or whoever it doesn't really matter - if the emperor didn't want it to happen, it wouldn't have). Guilliman absolutely did know suffering when his Adoptive Father King Konor was murdered in a Coup. ago. ‘My father is no god. Vulkan disapears at some point befoee Guilliman os wounded and but later reappears over a 1000 years later. 40K loves its big showdowns. One of the Emporer's Primarch's, Guilliman, once had an audience with the Emperor behind closed doors. ‘The Emperor protects,’ Iolanth said. "Roboute Guilliman," the raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains down upon its worlds. ‘Roboute Guilliman. Within the universe, Guilliman very well may be capable of showing them all a better way (notwithstanding that this "better way" is coming from a man who commits genocide on a Tuesday), which is exactly why out of universe it'll never happen. The emperor considers Guilliman his greatest achievement and hope for mankind. In Dark Imperium it states that Guilliman did speak to the emperor telepathically and the emperor's mind has strengthened to completely new levels however he has lost his patience and humanity in the process, living as a consciousness in a. ’ Silence. That being said, Custodes and Guilliman are in good terms, Guilliman has 10 Custodes, 3 terminators and 5 wardens (Custode veterans) and the second highest ranking Csutode as part of his body guards. Although in his genius Roboute Guilliman excelled at everything Calgar could imagine, in other ways he was a world away from the idealised figure Calgar had imagined all his life. 1)Because there is a major difference between building an empire and waging war. Business, Economics, and Finance. The emperor also gave Roboute Guilliman permission to still expand Ultramar because Roboute Guilliman sold him on the vision of his legion and how it was going to work even if he did have minor disagreements with the emperor which he did from the beginning they both handled it like adults. 21. The Cicatrix Maledictum is crossed and Guilliman reaches Baal. Guilliman is going to suffer now that he's back. CryptoYou say that, but he goes out of his way to protect Guilliman, both in 30k and after Guilliman’s revival. The moment that Guilliman realizes, after struggling with his frustration with the Emperor for the entire book, that they are alike; and a necessary evil for the survival of mankind. However, it means the Emperor doesn't get the same unconditional obedience he gets from Russ, Dorn etc. Guilliman turns, finds another, punches his giant fist through the legionary’s torso, and pulls it out, ripping out his backbone. Euten had told Guilliman that street hawkers and vendors were doing a brisk trade in cheap icons and tin badges displaying the iconography of the First Legion. Mortarion was trying to pull all of ultramar into warp and needed to kill Guilliman by disease but he ended up calling to emperor who set fire to the garden. Guilliman is NOT the Emperor and his "forgiveness" would be irrelevant. Templars- Sounds right. So at the minimum that's one primarch with a similar level of accomplishment as Guilliman before being found again by the Emperor. Then Guilliman shows up at the end, with more, fresh, men, a sizable fleet, and a brand new bible book for everyone to conform too. He still believes he is. So instead he fired the ones that he wanted gone, replaced them with ones who would support his agenda of “we need to fix this mess” and then. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. Guilliman became the most stable and reasonable Primarch, because he grew up with a loving and wealthy father and mother (figure). Did the emperor love his primarch sons? In the indometus era Guilliman is said to have contemplated this upon his meeting with the Emperor. Perhaps that tipped it. Plot summary of Wrath of Magnus. One might say that the promise of another loyal Primarch existing next to Guilliman would be enough, but I argue differently. The Emperor is playing 4D warp-chess against invincible odds in a situation where rules do not even matter. Told Nurgle to piss off when orders to retreat came in and exposed nurgles realm to attack from the emperor. They were things. Do not do this,’ said Thiel. Guilliman vs Mortarion on Iax. Guilliman cannot merely say that he fights for the Emperor or in His name. He was overwhelming. He can insist that he thought the Emperor was dead all he wants but in 40k that’s not the mitigating circumstances, it’s the crime. You cannot replace him. Big Papa Blue shows up, wipes the floor with them tactically. Well, that is why, among other things, both the Custodes and Space Wolves don't trust him. So guilliman could be wearing what he sees has a super nice robe, which for us would be like wearing a really fancy suit. Mortarion glanced down at the Emperor’s sword. Guilliman recoiled from the adoration shining from. Even with all the work he managed to do, he'd be deemed another horus by all those who believe in the Emperor as a God and it'll be a civil war the imperium can't afford. We know Guilliman was impressed enough with Perturabo's siege terminator tactics in particular to emulate them and seek to refine them with his Fulmentarus squads. ‘Father, I have returned. The Emperor's goal is to uplift humanity into a new Golden Age. ' The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. Because it never happens. Nor did Sanguinius, who had powers of foresight second only to the Emperor Himself. ‘Never forget that the Emperor protects. NONE OF YOU EVER WERE" bit seemed especially hamfisted and everything started to fall apart afterward in terms of the cohesiveness if the writing. What hurt most deeply was what went unsaid. This is not just any loyal primarch, this is the Lion, and Guilliman has been in a similar situation before. Why did the Emperor set up basically tyrannical government. ago. LessRight Adeptus Mechanicus • 2 yr. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. Guilliman nodded. 4. When Guilliman went into stasis he was objectively a loyal servant of the Emperor. Guilliman may even have been able to resist if he wanted to. Rogal Dorn and Diocletian (the resident Custodes) began to butt head over the issue, so Kaeria the Silent Sister have some thing to say (sign). He awoke from death to find himself fighting a war he thought he had won a hundred centuries before. Guilliman had no illusions. Does Guilliman ever say anything directly in the lore about the matter? I get that Tzeentch can and does create entities to confuse and twist the minds of men to subvert the Imperium away from its. 10k years ago humans didn't even have pictograms, and yet the Imperium has kept the same general religion the whole time. Share. I believe most Space Marines have some clemency on the issue, but I have had little opportunity to engage any in conversation. ’ Achallor dipped his head. Horus was a war MASTER as it has been told several times in books. Could be that the Emperor did not want to answer but the question arises why he did not. The more I think about it the more I really like the idea of allowing Guilliman to grant a single Ultramarines Strategum use for free to a unit within 6". To save his brothers, to kill them. He may yet serve. Big E does a little trolling. Guilliman had no illusions. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I want Guilluman to name the Lion the Warmaster of Imperium Nihilus and send him off into the darkness with a massive fleet to absolutely fuck shit up. ‘The Emperor Himself,’ said Valeneez deferentially. A culture. "That's a rare weapon indeed," Magnus said, "A useless and broken weapon. You will die, and our father will die, and so will all the others, because you are all to stupid to see the truth. ‘Let me die knowing what you are,’ Guilliman whispered. During the formation of Imperium Secundus, Euten advised that Guilliman crown himself Emperor. ‘Hope. Couple this with him having a hard time. A test of his loyalty -- assuming his return isn't immediately followed by another private session with the Emperor telling him to build a new Imperium, as you suggested. He know by spurning his brother's beliefs so bluntly he had hastened the end of everything the Emperor Believed in. The rest of 30k still feels pretty grim. They are still a part of the Emperor's glorious Angels of Death :) ReplyYou say that the remaining legions were all exemplary, but the problem is many of the traitor legions were also exemplary before the heresy, such as the Luna wolves and the EC, so how do you handle the risk that a exemplary chapter CAN go off the rails. Hey everyone Rho here! Today we're asking the question. Think about it, Guilliman was the only primarch. ’ He heard all these at once. Come what may, I have to stop Horus and Guilliman. Man, that's beautiful. They were the only legion permitted to use the Aquilla. ’Theoretical, Guilliman thought savagely now, turning his anger against his traitorous mind. That he is against the will of the Emperor. Guilliman turned away and strode towards the occupied cell. Guilliman is the echo of the Emperor's Heart and Soul. Sure the Ultramarines are still around but none of the ones that were alive millennia ago, when Guilliman was last conscious. Then you have wise and morally good Khan and Guilliman. A third comes, eager for the glory of killing a primarch. Remember that Guilliman was revived on Macragge, far from Terra, and it was on Macragge that he learned about the past ten thousand years. Templars- Uh huh. ‘He created me, but I assure you, priest, that He was no father. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. Within the universe, Guilliman very well may be capable of showing them all a better way (notwithstanding that this "better way" is coming from a man who commits genocide on a Tuesday), which is exactly why out of universe it'll never happen. ’. ‘Guilliman. I doubt the Emperor was willing to lose Guilliman over this so he probably would have given Guilliman a. He is less certain whether the same remains true in 40k, but ultimately decides that it does. Euten had blown a raspberry. The Imperial Regent cannot command the Custodes they dont answer to the emperor, they answer to the Emperor of Mankind. Context: Sulymanya is a Rogue Trader who doesn't believe in the Emperor as a God. Advertisement. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. ago. He had never felt sympathy for angron before. Context: Guilliman is fighting an army of daemons and has an epiphany about the nature of daemons, the warp and their connection to mankind's minds. He was not the man who brought the rasp; he was the rasp. Guilliman would still help Angron with his rebellion, which would save the lives of his gladiator friends. The Emperor greeted Guilliman not as a father receives a son, but as a craftsmen who rediscovers a favourite tool that he thought lost. The Emperor’s light was blinding, all encompassing, but finally – finally – Guilliman had seen it as a whole. Mathieu the priest doesn't very much like that but cannot do anything about it because she's a close friend and subordinate to Guilliman. You will not wield it against me. I think Thiel and Dolor trump Gage, if only because Gage disappeared on the Macragge's Honour chasing Kor Phaeron after Calth and didn't return until after Bobby G was put in stasis. Thematically, the shield is a good way to remind him that he's not the scalpel he once was. Guilliman's difficulties do not even begin to approximate those faced by the Emperor. Secondly, when Mortarion almost kills Guilliman, Emperor literally possesses a girl to scatter the Daemons and save his only remaining loyal son. It wasn’t treason in 30k because in 30k the Emperor is a man with a vision and loyalty to that vision is what counts. The emperor lists off several names and titles for him at once when he first addresses guiliman. and no, I dont believe Guilliman is a traitor. " Guilliman steps towards the lithocast phantom, as though he might strike it down or snap its neck. Right now Chaos has three wayward brothers, and Guilliman could use some help. Yet Guilliman was always the primarch rooted in reality most, attached. Guilliman has landed at the heart of the Imperium. I find this hard to believe due to a couple of reasons below. 3 views 4 minutes ago. Like let's say the emperor on the throne is one man and the one possessing women and zapping untold amounts of enemies is a new chaos god who just hasn't found his evil. ‘I must fight him. And now Guilliman lives in his greatest fear: a corrupt, superstitious, tyrannical Imperium. Monarchia, then was both lesson and warning. ” Rogal: “The child has the features of Roboute, yet is quite clumsy. Then calls them over for negotiations, they seem him and can't believe it. I'd say stealing away thousands upon thousands of potential Astartes candidates/actual serving Astartes to turn them into improved super soldiers that you then keep hidden until the incredibly edge case scenario of Guilliman coming back to life occurs definitely seems like a total betrayal of the Emperor and his Imperium. ’ ‘What else? What else are you?’ ‘I am Alpharius,’ said Thiel. When he came out he was objectively a usurper. com In Dark Imperium it states that Guilliman did speak to the emperor telepathically and the emperor's mind has strengthened to completely new levels however he has lost his patience and humanity in the process, living as a consciousness in a rotten corpse for over 10,000 years would probably do that to you though so Guilliman continued his efforts to free his arm while he spoke. Despite his seemingly peaceful nature Sanguinius was known for his martial prowess, to the extent he was considered a match for Horus and Lion El’Jonson in combat ability. He behaved like a prisoner locked in an iron cage who is passed a rasp. Like his “brothers,” Roboute was taken as an infant by the powers of Chaos, and removed to a far-flung world in an effort to prevent the coming Age of the Imperium. Guilliman sent a message to Sanguinius as he approached the Sol System. Emperor: Guilliman. Despite the Emperor absolutely detesting Roboute Guilliman and wanting his life support cut off, in the Gathering Storm event of 40k canon, Guilliman finally awakens and has the exact same horrified and furious reaction to the bottomless cruelty and stupidity of the 41st millennium Imperium as the text-to-speech Emperor did. Ultramar. Guilliman stopped his walking and looked down at the woman. When Guilliman meets the Lion again in 40k. One might say that the promise of another loyal Primarch existing next to Guilliman would be enough, but I argue differently. This is the first time in 9000 years that someone with working legs has actually outranked an Inquisitor Lord. Sure, Guilliman is likely to turn the leadership of Nurceria to newly educated, non-violent ex-slaves while offering Angron a place if he want to deal with bureaucracy. He does acknowledge that some might see his actions as traitorous to the Imperium, but his goal was saving. Kor Phaeron’s narrow lips moulded into a grimace, opposing his primarch’s smirk. Guilliman is channeling power from the Emperor but it’s fully possessed by him, so he still has limited information. Life_South_907 Dark Angels • 1 yr. Always, it was the sword that did the damage. ’ ‘Disappointment. It was the look of the blindly faithful. CryptoThe Consul said that people needed the light of hope in this dark hour, a shining example of victory to renew their faith not just in the Emperor, but in Guilliman reborn. They were things. The Lion closes his eyes. People think that Mathieu, by going against Guilliman's will and possibly beginnign his conversion to the Imperial Cult, is evil. ''I cannot say, my lord,' said Valdor. Death World savages aren't noble savages, they are just plain savages. Guilliman had seen the look on the priest’s face too many times on other holy men. To top that off, he's alone. By all accounts, the XIII Legion was one of the most effective measured by quantity of successful compliances. Guilliman ultimately wants nothing less than to destroy the Imperium as it exists and rebuild it anew. ’ ‘Guilliman. “Open your eyes, you fools! He holds the Emperor’s Shield!” the Captain-General proclaimed. ‘I shall depart today, for the Emperor. ‘Tell me that you did it. ’. It roared with fire as Guilliman swung it, seeming to flare brighter as it sensed the presence of the daemon caged inside the machine. He was no god when I knew Him, but now…’. I think this is a cool scene because you have a human Imperial arguing against the Emperor being a God which is very rare imo. Discord - Old Man's Patreon - -. Please go read them if you can. ’ A blasphemy intended to provoke the priest. Thanks to MANSCAPED for sponsoring today's video! Get 20% OFF + Free International Shipping with my promo code "MAJORKILL" at Emperor would not condone the loss of millions simply to reign Curze/the Night Lords in. Practical, the Emperor is not a god. Well, with less. Moreover, Guilliman says he fights for what the Emperor believed in, past tense, not present. He spoke in the tongue of Ulthran’s people of Ulthwé. '. ‘Yes,’ Mathieu smiled serenely. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. He was not the man who brought. The Lion needs the reminder. Trading the thousands Curze did and might kill was not even with the Lions methods. Guilliman's resurrection was symbolic of hope rekindled for the Imperium but he's got this dirty little secret which is that the entire 40k Imperium is FUBAR and has just about zero chance of ascending to its former glory. It is good to be reminded that I am a person as well as a. Jarax · 8/9/2017. The Emperor's power surges to revive Guilliman the surge of "holy" power actually burns a section of the realm of Nurgle, ie. Abaddon kills the Custodes. The seeming fact that Dorn held this position in Guilliman's stead until essentially the moment Guilliman arrived, at which point Dorn immediately abdicated and Guilliman took up the role, indicates to me that there was a pre-existing understanding of some sort that Guilliman would take the overall reigns in the Emperor's prolonged absence. King Konor was my father. When interacting with Dante too during Devastation of Baal I always got the feeling that Guilliman really was hoping to get a similar relationship with Dante as he did Sanguinius. Of us all, I think perhaps only poor Konrad knew, for he too had the power to see the future. Unfortunately, the message was intercepted by the Conqueror, and Lotarra Sarrin is amused at Guillliman's sentimentality. Tau try to annex Imperial Worlds thinking the Great Rift weakened them. With the Emperor (‘daddy’ to Guilliman, one assumes) out of commission on the Golden Throne, and with the Imperium in disarray and having fallen into ignorance, superstition and totalitarianism, it seems like Guilliman might well be tempted to hit the reset button and try to recreate the Imperium as he believes the Emperor originally. There was great warpcraft in the weapon. To Guilliman, the dire state of the Imperium was a horrifying surprise. As soon as it turns sunshine and rainbows it's not 40k anymore. Too late, the Neverborn understood the danger it was in, and tried to flee. Lion fought Chaos at Caliban and Sang fought and died on Terra. To destroy what they made. . Told Nurgle to piss off when orders to retreat came in and exposed nurgles realm to attack from the emperor. Currently Magnus is more potent with the psychic round, but Guilliman's armour's special rules means Guilliman can come back from any death - so tabletop would be interesting. While guilliman learns from mistakes and gradually become better, horus is impossibly good. ‘You remember it,’ continued Guilliman. Guilliman seems to be adopting many of the mannerisms of Julius Caesar though. Guilliman has tried for over a decade to convince the Imperium and its leaders that the Emperor is not a god, with no success. The Emperor did not love His sons. ’ ‘Liar. Guilliman, and his forces that the defenders could have really used, showed up after E had killed. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. The Custodians' captain-general gave it to him; Guilliman did not begrudge the priest his awe. - Dark Imperium. Ever since Guilliman came back with the help of Yvraine and Eldrad, people have been asking what his exact stance on working with Xenos is. Buffeted by the full might of the Emperor's will unclothed in flesh, a cloak had been ripped from Guilliman's eyes. - Plague War. Guy Haley, Dark Imperium (2017)Guilliman's initial reaction: ‘Of all of them… Why did it have to be him who found a way through the storm?’. If this happens, the Custodes could possibly follow Guilliman instead of protecting the throne (if they believe this is the Emperor's will), and thus move towards being their own faction. . The being he had thought of as a father could hide nothing from him. The seeming fact that Dorn held this position in Guilliman's stead until essentially the moment Guilliman arrived, at which point Dorn immediately abdicated and Guilliman took up the role, indicates to me that there was a pre-existing understanding of some sort that Guilliman would take the overall reigns in the Emperor's prolonged absence. ’ He heard all these at once. One more theory is that the Emperor was setting up for a civil war between the Primarchs as Malcador discussed in Malcador - The First Lord of the Imperium. Colquan glared him. Emperor was trying to tell them to pick up the pace. No bad blood, just “thank god, someone competent to. Mathieu was thankfully unmoved. I was trying to think about what would be the ultimate GrimDark ending to Guilliman's story. The very idea of words seemed ridiculous, the concept of them a grievous harm against the equilibrium of time and being. Theoretical, Guilliman thought savagely now, turning his anger against his traitorous mind. "Listen to me, Roboute," the light ghost hisses. He took a deep breath. ’. With the telling quote, Guilliman doesn't know if the Emperor is a god now or not but if he is, he isn't worth worshiping. I think its because the Emperor knows that Guilliman is the only one out of his brothers capable of holding them all together, appealing to the humanity in them, and ultimately stabilizing and dare I say, advancing the imperium. The primarch's physical presence hit Dante hard. 3. ’ Achallor dipped his head. ‘He was also. ‘Worship the Emperor, if you must, but I am not deserving of your praise, nor will I. Guilliman, all his brothers, were nothing but a means to an end. There are a multitude of reasons. 31. ‘He speaks to me, brother,’ said Roboute Guilliman. So that was exactly what he did. He lets Guilliman keep the 500 Worlds both to keep him occupied doing what he was designed to do, and to act as a 'second foundation' to the Imperium. Guilliman is the Regent - his word is as if it came from the Emperor. This marksbthe beginning ofbthe Plague Wars. "Be at peace , brother," he started , gazing into eyes that were. Guilliman stared back, his expression hidden by the muzzle of his helmet. Anybody who says anything other than "it could potentially go either way" is being silly. ‘I find your familiarity refreshing. ago. As any us would be, Guilliman is rightly upset having been lied to and feels used and betrayed. As said in the OP, Leman Russ is the Emperor's executioner. There's other ways to give a daemon a true death as well. Even with all the work he managed to do, he'd be deemed another horus by all those who believe in the Emperor as a God and it'll be a civil war the imperium can't afford. He did not hear them at all. Though he knew that openly purging them for no legal reason other than “I ordered you to” would likely start a civil war even bigger and more destructive than the Horus Heresy. Guilliman reminded Helbrecht of the oaths he had sworn, and how his duty as High Marshal was to all the Emperor's realm rather than just being to his own personal vendettas. ’ The raging tempest spoke his name, and it was as the violence a dying sun rains upon its worlds. He did not hear them at all. If He were alive. The Emperor's power surges to revive Guilliman the surge of "holy" power actually burns a section of the realm of Nurgle, ie. When Guilliman had his initial conversation with the Emperor after returning, he finds this out. The sacrifice required to keep the Emperor alive sickened the primarch. Monarchia, then was both lesson and warning. At some point you must realize that there exists things other then governance. The Custodians' captain-general gave it to him; Guilliman did not begrudge the priest his awe. Context: Shortly after the start of the Indomitus-Crusade, an increasing number of Psykers among the. Kor Phaeron’s narrow lips moulded into a grimace, opposing his primarch’s smirk. Your quote appears to be verbatim from the source (p. Guilliman tried to remember how tall the. 3 After his resurrection, Roboute Guilliman has gained an audience with his father, the Emperor of Mankind. A Custodian of clear authority strode towards the Throne, with a massive golden hammer in one of his hands and his helm in the other. 7. ‘I know that, but I would no sooner bend my knee to him than to Horus. And I think it would really make a great literary arc that Guilliman the ultra rational, by the book Imperial regent is murdered by a mob of religious zealots. Guilliman didn't know what to say. The Emperor spoke and did not speak. ’ He heard all these at once. The Emperor considers him an instrument, and isn't wrong to do so. Emperor of Mankind & Roboute Guilliman; Emperor of Mankind (Warhammer 40. The brother-on-brother battles of the Heresy had once seemed the height of madness to. So there's. To be honest, I didn’t like the book. Guilliman, one presumes, heeded the warning. His body was a pilgrimage site for nearly ten thousand years. What horrors you have endured, I cannot imagine. The being he had thought of as a father could hide nothing from him. IndySoccerFan25 • 6 yr. It's the throwdown you've been waiting for, as Guilliman and Mortarion work out ten thousand years of pent-up resentment in a clash for the ages. Big E does a little trolling. But they didn't. Guilliman tries to kill one in Dark Imperium but that daemon is fated to exist at the end of time so it can't be killed. Guilliman had seen the look on the priest’s face too many times on other holy men. A fact Guilliman did not know. When the Emperor appears to Magnus during the Siege, He projects into Magnus’ mind as a glowing sun-god and they burn through the warp together, moving through billions of years in moments. Guilliman confidently assumes that he, a primarch, will be of huge significance in the outcome of the war. Instead of sending the boy to his doom, Guilliman instead adopts him, and raises as his own son rather than forge him into a tool for the Imperium. ‘Guilliman. -It was the destiny of the Dark Angels, and all Space Marines to endure constant war. He appeared dead.